The Conners' Michael Fishman OUT of the cast for new season

May 2024 · 11 minute read

OMG, this show is still on the air??? Who the fuck is watching this without Roseanne??

by Anonymousreply 1August 30, 2022 1:58 AM

Thank God with him out the way NOW there is more screen time available to pursue Darlene’s heterosexual love triangles as Sara Gilbert makes such an appealing romantic lead

by Anonymousreply 2August 30, 2022 1:59 AM

Maybe they can finally bring on Jackie's kid. Or the youngest Connor.

Or any of the people the audience might give a fuck about.

by Anonymousreply 3August 30, 2022 2:45 AM

Interesting conversation.

He talks about how he is so very close to Roseanne, loves her, was closer to her than her own kids at one point and had spent time at her home yet when he was homeless at age 15 and called 60 people from a payphone at a bus stop, no one responded. I wonder did he not call Roseanne or was she one of the ones who didn't respond?

He parents didn't manage his money well, his aunt sued him when he was six years old and it doesn't sound like he had a good family life.

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by Anonymousreply 4March 9, 2023 12:18 AM

R4 well that’s very sad.

by Anonymousreply 5March 9, 2023 12:24 AM

He's such a good-looking guy (and unexpectedly so). He's had a hard life.

He has never had much to do on "The Connors" (OP, please note the correct spelling).

by Anonymousreply 6March 9, 2023 12:26 AM

He served his purpose.

Oh, and r1, tune in tonight for a Whoopi special appearance.

If I am correct, ABC supports ABC, and she mentioned it this morning on The View.

by Anonymousreply 8March 9, 2023 12:28 AM

I find him attractive and he seems like a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 9March 9, 2023 12:29 AM

I honestly thought he was dead.

by Anonymousreply 10March 9, 2023 12:30 AM

R6 OP did spell it correctly. It’s The Conners.

by Anonymousreply 11March 9, 2023 12:31 AM

He was an awful actor when he was younger. That squeaky voice- terrible. (Not his fault, I know.)

I think he’s an attractive adult. I like his hair. And he’s kept fit. Homeless at 15? That’s crazy.

by Anonymousreply 12March 9, 2023 12:33 AM

[quote] his aunt sued him when he was six years old

On what grounds did his aunt sue him?

by Anonymousreply 13March 9, 2023 12:34 AM

I liked him as a child actor. I thought he was adorable his first season.

by Anonymousreply 14March 9, 2023 12:35 AM

He was the only kid that looked like he could have came out of Roseanne.

by Anonymousreply 15March 9, 2023 12:35 AM

[quote] He was an awful actor when he was younger.

And he was the second DJ. The first kid was bullied by Sara Gilbert and his parents pulled him from the show.

by Anonymousreply 16March 9, 2023 12:35 AM

You know you've hit rock bottom when Roseanne Barr is the beacon of light in your life.

by Anonymousreply 17March 9, 2023 12:36 AM

R16 talk about switching up a story….

by Anonymousreply 18March 9, 2023 12:41 AM

[quote]He has never had much to do on "The Connors" (OP, please note the correct spelling).

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 19March 9, 2023 12:44 AM

The most shocking thing about this is that The Conners has lasted 5 seasons.

by Anonymousreply 20March 9, 2023 12:45 AM

[quote]On what grounds did his aunt sue him?

She claimed to be his manager or agent. The lawsuit went on for six years and his parent weren't able to invest his money during that time. Also, I believe he said his parents (or father?) were immigrants and not knowledgeable in financial matters.

by Anonymousreply 21March 9, 2023 12:47 AM

His parents spent all him money.

by Anonymousreply 22March 9, 2023 12:47 AM

It could've been worse, DJ could've become an Anissa Jones or Dana Plato.

by Anonymousreply 23March 9, 2023 12:48 AM

I thought there were laws in place to keep the parents from stealing all the money.

by Anonymousreply 24March 9, 2023 12:55 AM

I think it was a combination of, he’s not a good actor so the writers didn’t want to write for him, and, nobody ever got a handle on what adult DJ’s personality was. With the two things feeding one another.

by Anonymousreply 25March 9, 2023 1:00 AM

[quote]I thought there were laws in place to keep the parents from stealing all the money.

They're not always followed or enforced. The child actor Radames Pera has said he asked for his trust when he turned 18, and his mother said the law actually said 21. When he turned 21, he asked for it again and she said, "Sorry, I spent it all."

Here's a long essay by Claudia Lamb, who played Heather on Mary Hartman.

[quote]My parents stole almost every penny I ever made as a child. Had it not been for the paper-tiger Coogan Law, I’d have lost everything that I would earn over the next 2 ½ years of working for Norman Lear. This larceny was unchecked by the State. Hell, it was APPROVED of by the court, who left me with the paltry sum of $20,000 when I turned 18. An amount that was further chipped away by the $2,000 delinquent tax bill my parents hadn’t bothered to deal with that I received as an Eighteenth birthday present. There is no way to estimate the true figure of how much money my parents stole from me because they claimed I made different amounts to the IRS, the Courts, SAG, AFTRA, and to me.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 9, 2023 1:01 AM

[quote]I thought there were laws in place to keep the parents from stealing all the money.

I'm guessing six years of defending against a lawsuit would also eat up a lot of the money.

by Anonymousreply 27March 9, 2023 1:02 AM

R25 A lot of little kids on sitcoms are hard to write as they age because they aren't even characters. Just walking cue cards to say something cute or sassy. So when they age and lose their cuteness, they're just there. Many never learn to act. I appreciate the Olsen twins realized they were awful child actresses who never improved and that their Michelle character on Full House only existed to be a cute little imp and had no personality whatsoever. Hence they didn't do Fuller House, also being millionaires helped defer them.

by Anonymousreply 28March 9, 2023 1:04 AM

R28 They kept Cindy Brady in pigtails, even as she started junior high. It was bizarre. No wonder Susan Olsen became a fucked up MAGA.

by Anonymousreply 29March 9, 2023 1:06 AM

[quote]They kept Cindy Brady in pigtails, even as she started junior high. It was bizarre. No wonder Susan Olsen became a fucked up MAGA.

And bound Anissa Jones' breasts, so she would stay "cute little Buffy."

by Anonymousreply 30March 9, 2023 1:10 AM

Cindy came across as mentally disabled in the last few seasons. It was messed up, Marcia, Greg, Peter and Jan got to grow up and even Bobby did too. But Cindy was kept so babyish wearing pigtails, lisping and misspelling words which she rode the short bus. In the last few episodes, she finally had her hair down though. Maybe because they tried to use Cousin Oliver to take over the cute role.

by Anonymousreply 31March 9, 2023 1:23 AM

[quote] If I am correct, ABC supports ABC

What?

by Anonymousreply 32March 9, 2023 1:31 AM

Roseanne turned her back on everyone who supported her. She’s a dumb evil pig.

by Anonymousreply 33March 9, 2023 1:32 AM

She's an asshole and a bigot. She uses the fact she's Jewish and a woman to excuse her behavior. I do believe she's mentally ill but she also is a hateful and entitled person who let her fame and money get to her head. Most comedians are raging assholes ironic since they bring joy to an audience.

by Anonymousreply 34March 9, 2023 1:35 AM

R32, ABC News supports ABC Entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 36March 9, 2023 2:10 AM

I always thought the reason they kept Susan olsen in pigtails was so they could keep the line in the theme song, "The youngest one in curls."

They do need to re-visit the Jackie Coogan Law so to make sure that young actors have a much larger percentage of the money they earn kept in trust until they turn 18.

by Anonymousreply 37March 9, 2023 2:21 AM

I’m shocked to read he did as many episodes of The Conners as he did. They never seemed to know what to do with his character but the whole show has been a mess with very little continuity. They should have had him move into the new house with Becky and Darlene and find themselves fighting like they did when they were kids. Couldn’t have been any worse than the stories they are running.

by Anonymousreply 38March 9, 2023 2:24 AM

I bet they were trimming the budget. Hard to justify paying someone who isn’t being utilized.

But I feel for the guy.

by Anonymousreply 41March 9, 2023 2:48 AM

The weird thing about this is Fishman is really not that bad of an actor. He's no worst than Lecy and Sara. His performance was perfectly adequate in the few scenes they gave him on The Conners. I think the writers just didn't know what to do with the character because they're terrible.

by Anonymousreply 42March 9, 2023 3:20 AM

R42, you are correct. With Roseanne, it was an all female dynamic with her sister, her mother, her grandmother, daughters and granddaughters. The guys were only props. With Roseanne gone, we have the father, the husband but the brother never was developed except to provide a black granddaughter. A 100% all you can avoid cunt fest. I hope Fishman got a bundle of FU cash for the first 5 seasons.

by Anonymousreply 43March 9, 2023 3:57 AM

I think Fishman’s son just died of an overdose.

Man, I feel old!

by Anonymousreply 44March 9, 2023 5:18 AM

R10 Were you thinking of Glenn Quinn?

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by Anonymousreply 45March 9, 2023 5:21 AM

He seems a bit too invested in Quinn’s death. Does he do the same ritual for Shelley Winters and Ned Beatty?

by Anonymousreply 46March 9, 2023 5:36 AM

r46 Look for the period when he was a security guard... there were several interviews where he laid it on thick about Roseanne.

Albeit, most children that grow up on a sitcom for most of their life develop unhealthy connections to the adults on a set (not just the actors) while the majority of adults will move on.

Even still, he seemed pretty cringe inducing in those interviews... desperate for any work (except apparently being a security guard on a studio lot.... which gave him access and opportunity, more so as a former child star, and really the only reason his pint size self was chosen to be a guard. But no one likes a desperate ho that doesn't make an effort. It's typical child actor syndrome, despite they're constantly surrounded by examples of former child stars that failed to transition or had to carefully tailor their education, skillsets, take other jobs... you have that lot that always thinks once popular show should guarantee them a job rather than just opening doors. )

(And while everyone knows the battle to make it the Sara show after her messy departure from The Talk where she had a similar conflict, or frankly, the nature of her shitty career in general... which is why she never translated into a "star" immediately after despite her family connections and the push to make her one. She had more the problem while they thought she could fulfill a niche, liked her acting... they did not, however, like her very much. Open secret but sacrilege to say now. Fishman was stained by his parents reputation and partially that Roseanne ended when disdain for child actors was at a high, even if he was milquetoast. Remember it wasn't just the girls going wild back then. he also got married too young, didn't maintain the right connections, and his current release from the show is not without it's drama either but this time around, he'll likely happily fade into the background.)

by Anonymousreply 47March 9, 2023 6:17 AM

I think he was close to Glenn Quinn and actually organised his funeral.

by Anonymousreply 48March 9, 2023 8:47 AM

He discusses his foster son Larry who overdosed and died in the video. He has two bio kids from his first marriage who are in their 20s, he must have had them really young. Then three, including Larry, foster or adopted (he's not very clear about the other two) from second marriage. He wanted to adopt Larry but Larry would lose too many government benefits if he did, One of the other foster/adopted kids is Larry's bio sister. He's kind of vague about some things and overly detailed about others.

by Anonymousreply 49March 9, 2023 10:33 AM

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